KIA Rio 2004 1,5 MT

[NEXUS_1090]

Приветсвую!

Авто КИА РИО 2004-го года. Авто на ходу заглохла, мигает ИММО. оттащили к оффам, они не смогли прописать ключи, требуется ввести код, получили код, а он не совпал, поставили новый ЭБУ и там такая же беда. Вообщем человек обратился ко мне, просит, чтобы я отключил иммо вообще. Блок Сим42, иммо-SHINCHANG 473810-1000.

Возможно ли прочитать прошивку чиплодырем? Нужна распиновка ЭБУ, для подключения.

Как вообще можно отключить иммо и возможно ли? Спасибо за ранее!

 

 

[DimoonnSS]

Дамп с иммо покажите

[NEXUS_1090]

Вот дамп. Считывали Упой, дважды, как 8 битную и как 16 битную. Буду рад помощи.

93c46 x16.bin

93c46.bin

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А код разве не пятизначный?

Полагаю, что по ИММО намного точнее будет, но вот карманскан по этому году просит пятизначный код (могу ошибиться, проверю)

 

А как отключить ИММО? Выходит, что не возможно это сделать?

[NEXUS_1090]

Парни, я нуждаюсь в вашей помощи, как решить проблему?

[Rakso]

ну вот ленишься ты посмотреть распиновку блока?

simk-42

разъем B-01:

4,5,6 - масса

7,8,9- +12В

3 - к-линия

 

104ю ногу проца на массу и вперед через бсл с167.

пробуй считать.

считаешь, потом потрещим по иммо.

[SErgey_k]

В SHINCHANG стандартный код, если его никто не менял 12345.

[blade]

За PINом можно и на сайт к Viktor заглянуть

[NEXUS_1090]

ну вот ленишься ты посмотреть распиновку блока?

simk-42

разъем B-01:

4,5,6 - масса

7,8,9- +12В

3 - к-линия

 

104ю ногу проца на массу и вперед через бсл с167.

пробуй считать.

считаешь, потом потрещим по иммо.

Спасибо, все вычиталось!

Изменено 21 августа, 2011 пользователем NEXUS_1090

[sogd]

А машина завелась7 А то по описанию - питание какое то пропала или с обвязкой проблемы...

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А машина завелась7 А то по описанию - питание какое то пропала или с обвязкой проблемы...

Нет пока. Пока только прошивку и дамп с иммо вычитал. Задача с отключением иммо пока не решена.

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Вообщем код ввел, эбу разблокировал, но.....авто не заводится. Теперь висит другая ошибка PLAUSIBILITY CHECK (CS)(Р1612).

Что это такое и как победить?

[Rakso]

PLAUSIBILITY CHECK COMMUNICATION( MIS-MATCHING CODE ) - несовпадение кодов.

[Rakso]

добавлю

P1612

Check sum message from ICU is wrong - ICU failure - Erase DTC/Replace

 

 

2004 > G 1.5 DOHC > Body Electrical System Language Chinese English French German Italian Polish Portuguese Russian Slovak Spanish Turkish Diagnostic trouble codes and associated procedures1.

Turn ignition switch to ON position.2.

The immobilizer check lamp turns on.3.

Turn the ignition switch to LOCK.4.

Locate the data link connector (DLC) in the engine compartment and install the Hi-Scan Pro Tool.5.

Turn the ignition switch to ON and record any Diagnostic Trouble Codes displayed by Hi-Scan Pro Tool.6.

Refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code Chart, for fault description and actions.

Diagnostic trouble code (DTC) chartDiagnostic Trouble Code

Fault Description

P1600

Communication error (ECU-VIM)

P1611

No answer from immobilizer

P1612

Checksum message wrong

 

 

Diagnostic Trouble Code TroubleshootingDTC

Fault Description

Possible cause

Action

P1600

P1611

No receiving any answer on K-line after elapsing timeout of communication or no receiving correct answer for communication time.

Harness or connection failure.

ICU failure.

Erase DTC

Repair or replace

P1612

Check sum message from ICU is wrong

ICU failure.

Erase DTC

Replace

 

 

System checkStep

Action

Normal results

1

•

Observ "IMMO" indicator.•

Turn the ignition switch to ON."IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately two seconds and goes out.

2

•

Turn the ignition switch to STARTEngine starts.

3

•

Turn the ignition switch to OFF.•

Disconnect antenna coil connector from ICU.•

Turn the ignition switch to ON.•

Observe "IMMO" indicator."IMMO" indicator blinks at 2 Hz for 5 seconds and then the indicator blinks at 0.6 Hz for approximately 17 seconds.

4

•

Perform limp home with original correct PIN"IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately two seconds and goes out

5

•

Turn the ignition switch to START.Engine starts.

 

 

ICU status by "IMMO" indicatorAction

Part number

Virgin

Neutralized/Learnt

•

Disconnect antenna coil connector.•

Turn ignition switch to ON.0K2AD 67 7B0

"IMMO" indicator blinks at three times for two seconds.

"IMMO" indicator blinks at 2 Hz for 5 seconds and then blinks at 0.6 Hz for approximately 17 seconds (LIMPHOME MODE).

 

 

Before servicingStep

Inspection

Yes

No

1

•

Turn the ignition switch to ON.•

Check if "IMMO" indicator illuminates or blinks.Go to step 6.

Go to step 2.

2

•

Disconnect the immobilizer harness connector from the ICU.•

Check if battery voltage is applied to the terminal 2i of the harness connector.Go to step 3.

Repair or replace

3

•

Check if the terminal 2B of the harness connector is grounded.Go to step 4.

Repair or replace

4

•

Turn the ignition switch to ON.•

Check the battery voltage is applied to the terminal 2J and 2C of the harness connector.Go to step 5.

Repair or replace

5

•

Turn the ignition switch to OFF and connect the immobilizer harness connector to the ICU.•

Turn the ignition switch to ON.6

•

Check if "IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately two seconds and then goes outGo to step 7.

Go to "Symptom table"

7

•

The ICU is normal. Check if engine startsSystem is OK

Go to "Symptom table"

 

 

Symptom tableFault

Possible symptom

Action

•

Defective Key transponder•

No Key matching•

Defective Antenna coils•

Defective Harness between ICU and antenna coils•

The rest of system is OK.•

Engine does not start.•

"IMMO" indicator blinks at 2 Hz for 5 seconds and then blinks at 0.6 Hz.•

"IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately two seconds and then goes out. When turning the ignition switch to OFF and START after limp home, engine starts.Refer to procedure 1

•

ICU virgin

(0K2AD 67 7B0)•

The rest of system is OK.•

Engine does not start.•

"IMMO" indicator illuminates at three times for approximately two seconds and then goes out.•

When disconnecting antenna coil connector and turning the ignition switch to ON, "IMMO" indicator illuminates at three times for approximately two seconds and then goes out (0K2AD 67 7B0).Perform "Normal Coding" procedures with original correct PIN.

•

Defective ECU•

Harness between ICU and ECU•

Starting system•

The rest of system is OK•

Engine does not start.•

"IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately two seconds and then goes out.•

When disconnecting antenna coil connector and turning the ignition switch to ON, "IMMO" indicator blinks at 2 Hz and then the indicator blinks at 0.6 Hz for approximately 17 seconds.Refer to procedure 2

•

Defective ICU•

Defective ECU•

Defective harness between ICU and ECU•

The rest of system is OK.•

Engine does not start.•

When disconnecting antenna coil and then performing limp home with original correct PIN, "IMMO" indicator does not blink from 2 Hz to 0.5 Hz (The PIN entry is correct).•

MIL indicator illuminates (there are any Diagnostic Trouble Codes related to Inkey Immobilizer System).Refer to procedure 3

 

 

Procedure 1Step

Inspection

Action

1

Perform "Key Only Matching" with the original correct PIN.

Are key matching results well?

Yes

Turn the ignition switch to START

No

Go to step 2.

2

Turn the ignition switch to OFF.

Check if connection and wire harness between antenna coils and ICU are normal.

Yes

Go to step 3.

No

Repair or replace wire harness

3

Check if antenna coils are normal

Yes

Go to step 4.

No

Replace antenna coils

4

Perform "Key Only Matching" with the original correct PIN.

Are key matching results OK?

Yes

Go to step 5.

No

Recheck system

5

Turn the ignition switch to OFF and ON

Check if "IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately two seconds and goes out.

Yes

Go to step 6.

No

Recheck system

6

Turn the ignition switch to START.

Check if engine starts

Yes

System is OK

No

(Refer to "Symptom table").

 

 

Procedure 2Step

Inspection

Action

1

Perform "VIM CHECK" with original correct PIN.

Check if ICU's status and condition are "Learnt" and "Unlocked".

Yes

ICU is normal

No

Go to step 2.

2

Check if the connection and wire harness between ICU and ECU is normal.

Yes

Go to step 3.

No

Replace or replace wire harness.

3

Perform "Normal Coding" with original correct PIN.

Yes

Go to step 4.

No

Recheck system or check if PIN entry is correct

4

Perform "ECM CHECK" with orighinal correct PIN.

Check if ECU condition is "Unlocked".

Yes

check starting system.

No

Go to step 5.

5

Recheck if connection and wire harness between ICU and ECU is normal

Yes

Go to step 6.

No

Repair or replace wire harness.

6

Perform "Neutralization" and "Normal Coding" with original correct PIN.

Turn the ignition switch to START.

Check if engine starts.

Yes

System is OK

No

Recheck system.

7

Before replacing ECU, must remember and record the original correct PIN.

Perform "Neutralization" with the original correct PIN and turn the ignition switch to OFF.

Remove ECU and store the ECU with the tag recorded serial inspection.

Install new virgin or neutralized ECU

Perform "Normal Coding" with the original correct PIN.

Turn the ignition switch to START

Check if engine starts.

Yes

System is OK

No

Perform "Neutralization" with the original correct PIN, remove new ECU, and install original ECU.

Perform "Normal coding" with the original correct PIN.

Recheck system.

 

Procedure 3Perform "ECM CHECK" and "VIM CHECK" with Hi-Scan Pro Tool. The ECU and ICU installed in vehicle are in Learnt Status because they were first encoded by Kia Motor.Step

Inspection

Action

1

Perform “Neutralization” and “Normal Coding” with the original correct PIN.

Turn the ignition switch to START.

Check if engine starts.

Yes

System is OK.

No

Go to step 2.

2

Turn the ignition switch to OFF and disconnect antenna coils connector.

Turn the ignition switch to ON and perform "Limp home" with the original correct PIN through IG SW.

Observe if "IMMO" indicator illuminates for approximately 2 seconds and then goes out.

Yes

Go to step 3.

No

Go to step 6.

3

Turn the ignition switch to START.

Check if engine starts.

Yes

System is OK.

No

Go to step 4.

4

Check if connection and wire harness between ICU and ECU is normal.

Yes

Go to step 5.

No

Repair or replace wire harness.

5

Before replacing ECU, must remember and record the original correct PIN.

Perform "Neutralization" with the original correct PIN and turn the ignition switch to OFF.

Remove ECU and store the ECU with the tag recorded serial inspection.

Install new virgin or neutralized ECU

Perform "Normal Coding" with the original correct PIN.

Perform "Limphome" with the original correct PIN and turn the ignition switch to START.

Check if engine starts.

Yes

System is OK

No

Go to step 6.

6

Before replacing ICU, must remember and record the original correct PIN.

Perform "Neutralization" with the original correct PIN and turn the ignition switch to OFF.

Remove ICU and store the ICU with the tag recorded serial inspection.

Install new virgin or neutralized ICU

Perform "Normal Coding" with the original correct PIN.

Perform "Limphome" with the original correct PIN and turn the ignition switch to START.

Check if engine starts.

Yes

System is OK

No

Go to step 7.

7

Check if connection and wire harness between ICU and ECU is normal.

Yes

Go to step 8.

No

Repair or replace wire harness.

8

Perform "VIM CHECK" and "ECM CHECK" with the original correct PIN.

Check if ICU and ECU status is "Unlocked".

Yes

Check starting system.

No

Perform "Neutralization" with the original correct PIN, remove new ECU and ICU, and install original ECU and ICU.

Perform "Normal coding" with the original correct PIN.

Recheck system

 

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Изменено 22 августа, 2011 пользователем Rakso

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Вообщем, результата положительного пока добиться не удалось, увы.

Карман скан пишет, что Эбу обучен, эбу заблокирован. Код, который получил по дампу ИММО теперь не принимается, странно.

Изменено 24 августа, 2011 пользователем NEXUS_1090